and republicans love conning people with talk of being "fiscally responsible" and following "law and order" - except they're NOT fiscally responsible at all, and they LOATHE law and order when it comes to applying it to themselvs, or their own. It's all quite the scam.
I can see the writing under the snake. First this rip off bill will pass and become a permanent extortion of tax dollars from the hard working folks of CA then they will reverse Prop 13, and off to the races with our property taxes. Add that to the wealth tax where all the wealthy leave CA for TX and those of us remaining here will see death by 1000 cuts.
I would feel better if the numbers were where they should be in CA schools, we should be leading the nation on all metrics, how is it that our UC system is the best and our public K-12 is not? Time to find another scapegoat.
When I moved to California with my three boys in the summer they started school and all three came home with their last years school books. It was if they took the same grade all over again. What a waste. Also, in Washington state all three were "C" students, but here in California, they were "A" students all the way through grade school and high school. The public schools system is just a scam to obtain money from taxpayers to pay administrator high salaries who do nothing to educate our children.
I sent them out of state to get a college education due to the poor learning conditions in California colleges.
I was a Cal Poly San Luis Obispo adjunct faculty Nutrition instructor. I rewrote my courses daily to be upto speed with real research (not funded by big pharma) and my culture course had debate topics like gun control, cartels, gmo's, political leaders, religion, child trafficking, death of middle class... I had student teams fo 4 present on various countries to compare and contrast life around the world. My sectiins ( 60 limit) all filled with 100 on my waitlists while tenure staff sections were cancelled bc not enough on roster. Admin did everything to get me out including having tenure staff audit my classes. I quit! The system makes it impossible for good teachers to survive. So sad, bc students loved me, learned how to think for themselves, work in teams, and build good character.
Absolutely Vote NO on Prop 3. I am a teacher and the teacher unions are evil and what they support is NOT in the best interest of children. They are power hungry along with the bureaucrats that have never been in a classroom. They just line their pockets with money from these initiatives and propositions. Hopefully the dept of Education gets eliminated too! CA is the worst for education
The teachers union will promote the idea that a no vote on Prop 3 is a another tax break for the rich and furthers the Trump agenda. In California, the ideas of sticking it to the rich and thwarting Trump may well win passage of this permanant tax. Throwing more money at government only expands government while leaving outcomes for the tax payer unchanged. This reality is lost on the Democrat Socialists.
Luckily, the Democrat Socialists are only a small portion of the Dem party. Most Dems are fair-minded. I'm a Republican Socialist, opposed to the corporate control managed these days by Bozo the Trump..
Democrat socialist ideology is creeping into the Democrat party. Recent polling shows that 66% of registered Democrats have a favorable opinion of socialism. This is not a small portion. As far as being fair minded, progressive taxation to fund ever increasing government giveaways can be viewed as fair by the ignorant but is anything but fair. The lie is that corporate control is worse than government control. It would appear that you are the Bozo here. The ignorance shared by Democrat socialists and fair minded Democrat fools is that wealth is a zero sum game. The notion that there is a fixed amount of money and that the money controlled by the rich is not available to others. In fact, wealth brings more wealth. I never got a job from a poor man. As far as being a republican socialist, if that is your idea of humor I wouldn’t give up my day job. Truly one of the lamest comments I have read here. Tell me Greg, have you ever participated in Capitalism or do you work for government?
Voting no on all tax increase initiatives until the state starts being more honest with how the money is actually used. My taxes are so high but there are schools that I still donate supplies to because they're still considered poor. How come the money isn't being distributed equally if it's being distributed at all?
Excellent article. How can we get sufficient publicity to block this.
I also just read about a bill raising pensions for I think firefighters and maybe police. Cities, counties are going broke paying pension premiums. Time to stop.
Thank you for the clear explanation. Do we really need a teachers' union? The Serpent! I have learned to vote no on all bonds. It's appreciated when someone clearly explains a proposition and the end result of your vote. The school system overall needs a "MERIT-BASED SYSTEM". Results are what matter, and the results have been awful. Excessive taxation has caused the exodus of residents to more tax-friendly states. Therefore, fewer students, plus the private schools have increased rolls. Homeschooling has proved to be very successful. There are many options besides the public school system. I agree VOTE NO - ON PROP 3!
Well, you sure are right about no one being wiser, Be it students or voters. That’s because the California teachers union taught those same voters. Not to be able to think for themselves or how to add 2+2 or any problem-solving skills, but to be caring, tolerant, un questioning people. They have spent 30 or 40 years, turning out brain dead robots, and therefore guaranteeing their funding, as well as government funding as well. With most of this money destined for non-essential bureaucrats.
Let me start with this quote from Mr. Fenkner: "It’s billed as the California Children’s Education and Health Care Protection Act. Its purpose is simple: remove the expiration date on Prop 30. "
Now let me quote myself from this issue of years past. "Santa Barbara USD Superintendents proved the answer to the issue of falling test scores and students who cannot read."
What you say? How can that be possible without increasing the tax base and throwing more money at the problem? Simple applies what works. HUH?
Caston --- California Superintendent of the Year,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flores --- (shhh now a Hispanic name) continued the success of the California Superintendent of the Year, and experienced the same results......!!!!!!!!!!
No throwing more money at the issue.
Then came the slide to mediocrity and the eventual failures because of prejudice bashing worked. The traditional Left power blocks found out they are losers both at the elections and socially. (Success is a real b#### when it proves you wrong)
Who raised in opposition to success? Among others Hispanic and Blacks who said it isn't fair that you are placing a standard on our kids. Understand a standard that made those very ethnic and racial groups kids standouts. You know successes. While I am bashing the kiss @$$ Left let's not forget the California Teachers Association (CTA), and the SEIU.
So if you have Decline to State, and Dem next to your name understand you have backed failure. You have taken hundreds of millions of tax dollars and then pout (you know like the 2 year olds who "I want I want I want") demanding to get their own way.
Mr. Fenkner called it, and the answer is simple this junk is politics. Don't worry you have more then enough money -- Just look at the Billions in debt the State is in.
Student enrollment is down, birthrates are declining, homeschooling is more popular than ever. The only reason they need more money is to fund the union political machine.
Thanks for this well-written informative article on where we shouldn't be! I currently vote no on all tax and spend ideology propositions.
Cliff Burgers?
Hi Jeff
I remember Sutcliffe owned cliff burgers back in the 1980s. Did he also work at SBRC? Do I know you?
The world was full Jeff everyone around you don’t know me I really don’t to but if you won’t mind can we?
liberal sharks love your $$$ under the guise of goodness - people are stupid enough to vote yes - NO on any measure !
Thanks for opening up the books. Keep sharing and exposing the truth, hopefully we can change this!
and republicans love conning people with talk of being "fiscally responsible" and following "law and order" - except they're NOT fiscally responsible at all, and they LOATHE law and order when it comes to applying it to themselvs, or their own. It's all quite the scam.
I can see the writing under the snake. First this rip off bill will pass and become a permanent extortion of tax dollars from the hard working folks of CA then they will reverse Prop 13, and off to the races with our property taxes. Add that to the wealth tax where all the wealthy leave CA for TX and those of us remaining here will see death by 1000 cuts.
I would feel better if the numbers were where they should be in CA schools, we should be leading the nation on all metrics, how is it that our UC system is the best and our public K-12 is not? Time to find another scapegoat.
When I moved to California with my three boys in the summer they started school and all three came home with their last years school books. It was if they took the same grade all over again. What a waste. Also, in Washington state all three were "C" students, but here in California, they were "A" students all the way through grade school and high school. The public schools system is just a scam to obtain money from taxpayers to pay administrator high salaries who do nothing to educate our children.
I sent them out of state to get a college education due to the poor learning conditions in California colleges.
I was a Cal Poly San Luis Obispo adjunct faculty Nutrition instructor. I rewrote my courses daily to be upto speed with real research (not funded by big pharma) and my culture course had debate topics like gun control, cartels, gmo's, political leaders, religion, child trafficking, death of middle class... I had student teams fo 4 present on various countries to compare and contrast life around the world. My sectiins ( 60 limit) all filled with 100 on my waitlists while tenure staff sections were cancelled bc not enough on roster. Admin did everything to get me out including having tenure staff audit my classes. I quit! The system makes it impossible for good teachers to survive. So sad, bc students loved me, learned how to think for themselves, work in teams, and build good character.
Absolutely Vote NO on Prop 3. I am a teacher and the teacher unions are evil and what they support is NOT in the best interest of children. They are power hungry along with the bureaucrats that have never been in a classroom. They just line their pockets with money from these initiatives and propositions. Hopefully the dept of Education gets eliminated too! CA is the worst for education
The teachers union will promote the idea that a no vote on Prop 3 is a another tax break for the rich and furthers the Trump agenda. In California, the ideas of sticking it to the rich and thwarting Trump may well win passage of this permanant tax. Throwing more money at government only expands government while leaving outcomes for the tax payer unchanged. This reality is lost on the Democrat Socialists.
It is going to be interesting to see how they blame Trump and make it about making the rich "pay their fair share."
Luckily, the Democrat Socialists are only a small portion of the Dem party. Most Dems are fair-minded. I'm a Republican Socialist, opposed to the corporate control managed these days by Bozo the Trump..
Democrat socialist ideology is creeping into the Democrat party. Recent polling shows that 66% of registered Democrats have a favorable opinion of socialism. This is not a small portion. As far as being fair minded, progressive taxation to fund ever increasing government giveaways can be viewed as fair by the ignorant but is anything but fair. The lie is that corporate control is worse than government control. It would appear that you are the Bozo here. The ignorance shared by Democrat socialists and fair minded Democrat fools is that wealth is a zero sum game. The notion that there is a fixed amount of money and that the money controlled by the rich is not available to others. In fact, wealth brings more wealth. I never got a job from a poor man. As far as being a republican socialist, if that is your idea of humor I wouldn’t give up my day job. Truly one of the lamest comments I have read here. Tell me Greg, have you ever participated in Capitalism or do you work for government?
Voting no on all tax increase initiatives until the state starts being more honest with how the money is actually used. My taxes are so high but there are schools that I still donate supplies to because they're still considered poor. How come the money isn't being distributed equally if it's being distributed at all?
Excellent article. How can we get sufficient publicity to block this.
I also just read about a bill raising pensions for I think firefighters and maybe police. Cities, counties are going broke paying pension premiums. Time to stop.
Who else gets juicy pensions?
James Fenkner, thanks for the common sense! That’s a breath of fresh air these days.
"Common sense" means "matches my opinion or logic structure". "Common sense" is fictitious in a melting-pot society.
Thank you for the clear explanation. Do we really need a teachers' union? The Serpent! I have learned to vote no on all bonds. It's appreciated when someone clearly explains a proposition and the end result of your vote. The school system overall needs a "MERIT-BASED SYSTEM". Results are what matter, and the results have been awful. Excessive taxation has caused the exodus of residents to more tax-friendly states. Therefore, fewer students, plus the private schools have increased rolls. Homeschooling has proved to be very successful. There are many options besides the public school system. I agree VOTE NO - ON PROP 3!
no more increase! Live within your means now in place!
Well, you sure are right about no one being wiser, Be it students or voters. That’s because the California teachers union taught those same voters. Not to be able to think for themselves or how to add 2+2 or any problem-solving skills, but to be caring, tolerant, un questioning people. They have spent 30 or 40 years, turning out brain dead robots, and therefore guaranteeing their funding, as well as government funding as well. With most of this money destined for non-essential bureaucrats.
We must take back our schools from these snakes!
Thank you for this information.
Let me start with this quote from Mr. Fenkner: "It’s billed as the California Children’s Education and Health Care Protection Act. Its purpose is simple: remove the expiration date on Prop 30. "
Now let me quote myself from this issue of years past. "Santa Barbara USD Superintendents proved the answer to the issue of falling test scores and students who cannot read."
What you say? How can that be possible without increasing the tax base and throwing more money at the problem? Simple applies what works. HUH?
Caston --- California Superintendent of the Year,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flores --- (shhh now a Hispanic name) continued the success of the California Superintendent of the Year, and experienced the same results......!!!!!!!!!!
No throwing more money at the issue.
Then came the slide to mediocrity and the eventual failures because of prejudice bashing worked. The traditional Left power blocks found out they are losers both at the elections and socially. (Success is a real b#### when it proves you wrong)
Who raised in opposition to success? Among others Hispanic and Blacks who said it isn't fair that you are placing a standard on our kids. Understand a standard that made those very ethnic and racial groups kids standouts. You know successes. While I am bashing the kiss @$$ Left let's not forget the California Teachers Association (CTA), and the SEIU.
So if you have Decline to State, and Dem next to your name understand you have backed failure. You have taken hundreds of millions of tax dollars and then pout (you know like the 2 year olds who "I want I want I want") demanding to get their own way.
Mr. Fenkner called it, and the answer is simple this junk is politics. Don't worry you have more then enough money -- Just look at the Billions in debt the State is in.
I am sending to all my friend. It helps explain why I leaving Califraudia.
Student enrollment is down, birthrates are declining, homeschooling is more popular than ever. The only reason they need more money is to fund the union political machine.